ITT-Tech

"Hooker" (Hooker) 01/19/2016 at 09:20 • Filed to: None

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Anyone have any personal experience with ITT-Tech? Good? Bad? Indifferent? I’m considering a change of career for drafting and design and looking into an online program. I’ve done online programs before but never with ITT-Tech. Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Here’s something for your time.

Patrick Nichols > Hooker 01/19/2016 at 09:26

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Personally, I’d stay away from for profit schools. Never done the online thing, but I’ve heard good things from the top non profit programs at the certificate, associates, bachelors, and masters levels.

Hooker > Patrick Nichols 01/19/2016 at 09:28

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Good to know. Even though it’s for profit, the cost is competitive with the community colleges around this area. The biggest draw is for the extensive classes and online structure. I’ll keep my ear to the ground. The good news is it’s accredited.

Patrick Nichols > Patrick Nichols 01/19/2016 at 09:29

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I know a lot of people that either did full time or supplemented with SNHU and Granite State College specifically. SNHU is consistently ranked among the best too.

Bengal55 > Hooker 01/19/2016 at 09:34

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Take what I say with a grain of salt, but have been a few articles written about for profit schools like ITT-Tech, Phoenix, ECPI, Strayer, Art Institute and the like. Most claim they expidite the semesters and guarantee a quicker certificate. Problem is that the education you paid for and were taught is overall less than you’d get at a comparable 2 or 4 year university and that many companies view for profit sourced degrees differently. Do your research before you sign up with one.

Most community colleges and many 4 year universities offer online courses, night or mixed courses and generally are better bets. Plus the ability for in-state tuition. What field do you wish to work in once you’re trained?

Aaron M - MasoFiST > Hooker 01/19/2016 at 09:38

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Miss Mercedes posts around these parts frequently, and her writings about ITT Tech have been...quite negative. Lowlights include tuition costs and utter lack of credit transferability.

crowmolly > Hooker 01/19/2016 at 09:45

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Miss Mercedes is who you need to talk to. See if you can find some of her posts about school/ITT.

Hooker > Bengal55 01/19/2016 at 10:02

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Ideally, either civil or architectural design. I want to work closely with engineers and architects to develop solutions to problems while making spaces that compliment people’s lives.

Hooker > Aaron M - MasoFiST 01/19/2016 at 10:02

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To give ITT-Tech credit, they made it very clear to me that their credits do not typically transfer and do not advertise that they do. In my world, I don’t care if they do or don’t.

Hooker > crowmolly 01/19/2016 at 10:03

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Thank you!

Nibbles > Hooker 01/19/2016 at 10:04

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On resumes, I consider people with ITT certificates on par with those that have no college. It’s been my experience that the majority of ITT graduates that have crossed my path are not much more than paper tigers. I’m not certain if it’s because they try to force too much at once, ensuring that important information is lost, or that the courses are just poor, but I haven’t had an ITT graduate yet break this perception.

Aaron M - MasoFiST > Hooker 01/19/2016 at 10:07

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Her situation and yours are a bit different, and from what little I know ITT Tech is a better choice for someone looking for a mid-career certification as opposed to a first degree. Only advice I’d have in your situation is to see if there are any programs that companies you’d want to work for particularly like, as that sort of endorsement can sometimes mean as much as the actual quality of the program.

Hooker > Nibbles 01/19/2016 at 10:07

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Thanks for this perspective! It’s nice to hear from a hiring manager on it! Their courses “look” interesting and I haven’t found anything online that matches what they seem to teach. It’s disconcerting a bit.

Hooker > Aaron M - MasoFiST 01/19/2016 at 10:12

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Agreed. Yes, I already have a BA in Software and Information Systems. Just looking to gain more knowledge on drafting and design for a possible career move. I have had some formal training in CAD and have done some plans and elevations for some folks here or there but nothing big. I like that ITT-Tech offers materials courses (building materials and how they interact) and structural courses on how load gets distributed and why. I feel like, if the courses are what they say they are, it could give me a “big picture” view of my drawings when I’m working in that field. Anyone can draw. Not everyone will understand buildings and how they are actually put together. That’s what intrigues me about this program.

Nibbles > Hooker 01/19/2016 at 10:14

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Look into state universities as well. A lot of them are getting into online-based continuing education (or education for us working stiffs) and offer some very good classes.

Aaron M - MasoFiST > Hooker 01/19/2016 at 10:19

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It’s a good direction to go in. I went to a school with a solid Industrial Design program, and knew people who came from both the art direction and the MechE direction to go into ID. I do know full well that those opportunities came from having the opportunity to go to a large university, something that can’t be taken for granted with tuition being what it is.

E92M3 > Hooker 01/19/2016 at 10:59

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I have no personal experience, but from what I understand you’re money would be better spent elsewhere. They have a reputation like Wyotech. They promise high chances of getting you a job upon graduation, but fail to deliver. There’s tons of disappointed student stories who graduated with a lot of debt, were disappointed with the education received, and find a hard time getting employers to value said degree.

Übel > Hooker 01/19/2016 at 11:06

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I’ve heard nothing good, and plenty bad, they’re essentially a joke to the education community. Keep in mind they’re a business, and the more degrees they churn out the more money they get.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ITT+tech+re… (I don’t mean this to be rude, it’s just easier than linking an actual Google search) as others have said, many state and community colleges offer online courses now, so I would look into those well before considering ITT.

Hooker > Aaron M - MasoFiST 01/19/2016 at 11:22

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The good news is I have already done the large university thing. My concern is whether or not ITT-tech can provide me the education for CAD and design I want. I don’t care about prestige or transferring credits. I just want to know that the knowledge is there. The reviews I’m reading are about half and half.

Hooker > Nibbles 01/19/2016 at 11:22

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Will do. Thanks!

Hooker > Übel 01/19/2016 at 11:24

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Agreed. It just seems so encompassing and their courses seem to give a big picture view of the industry. But course descriptions and the courses themselves could be very different.

Aaron M - MasoFiST > Hooker 01/19/2016 at 11:36

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That’s always the rub. Other CAD techs are going to know best for any given program, I’d think. My CAD experience was wrapped up in a mechanical engineering degree, so I don’t know what a standalone program would look like.

Hooker > Aaron M - MasoFiST 01/19/2016 at 11:46

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I’m poking around the community colleges as well. So far, there’s a lot of “Fluff” and not a lot of what ITT seems to offer as classes. I’m lost and confused and I’m about to flush the whole damn thing. I was so excited there for a minute.

Bengal55 > Hooker 01/19/2016 at 12:00

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Eh, that can go either way. Speaking as someone in the field*, draftsman usually do not see a lot of design work come their way, you’ll be seeing red marks, measure ups and conversions more than anything else.

That’s not to say draftsman don’t do any design work, it’s just more limited. So keep that in mind as well. If you want to work your way up from drafting to an engineering or architectural position, or even own your own firm, then you’ll need a B.S. or better as required by law to get your license.

I’d avoid the for-profit “schools” and look into community or a university course, or consider the option of working toward a full 4 year degree in the field (engineering or arch). Whatever option you choose, I wish you luck.

* Assoc. Architect, (B.S. Arch.) working his way up the ranks at a small firm, mostly drafting, rendering and some occasional design work.

WiscoProud > Hooker 01/19/2016 at 13:34

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Go to a state tech school. The cost will be much lower and you'll get credits that may be transferable to a 4 year if you go that route.

Hooker > WiscoProud 01/19/2016 at 14:51

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I’ve already graduated with a 4 year degree from a state school. This would strictly be a 2 year program with no advancement necessary.

WiscoProud > Hooker 01/19/2016 at 14:56

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Fair enough. I would stick with community college for the cost savings in that case.

Textured Soy Protein > Hooker 01/26/2016 at 12:58

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Speaking as a soon-to-be-ex ITT Tech employee: I wouldn’t recommend it.

spanfucker retire bitch > Hooker 01/27/2016 at 12:35

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Do not give them a dime of your money. ITT Tech and other for-profit colleges are no different than those who peddle in snake oil.